NBA Oddities - And Other League Issues

[T Dot O Dot]

take 1 step forward by penalizing flops

take 3 steps backwards by allowing goaltending

[Bklyn]

Yeah, I don't get what benefit that provides the game...at all.

[T Dot O Dot]

trying to brush up on the international rule

if the ball hits the backboard or is on its downward slope its still goaltending

but...

if the initial shot doesnt fall imediately and is still above the cylinder it can be cleared by a defender or tipped back in by an offensive rebounder

which isnt so bad I guess, might even speed the game up

[Bklyn]

Tyson Chandler and Dwight Howard would have a field day. I disagree on the speed, though. I bet it allows more judgment calls for refs...that will lead to a late-game controversy at some point.

[Chuck Nevitt]

It should lead to more crowd-pleasing dunks.

[T Dot O Dot]

well all those plays where guys go up for follows and they "may" or "may not" have touched the ball while above the cylinder will no longer be a decision for the refs, they'll just let it go

and rebounders will be less timid ti follow shots

[T Dot O Dot]

OKC ought to be kicking themselves over last night's loss, for 3 quarters they were controlling SA then Harden & Westbrook lost control

everything Westbrook attempted in the 4th was a circus shot and Harden was just running into defenders on the break

[Bklyn]

Actually, I hold back on going full bore on them for the loss. True, they did play reckless down the stretch but it was not as much their fault as it may seem. The reason why is because OKC won a bunch of games against Dallas and LAL playing that way. The thing with the Spurs is, they play disciplined and they execute. You can't force them into a bailout foul late in the clock, or expect them to grab you on the break instead of taking the charge (although that charge Gary Neal took in the 4th - where Westbrook hit the ground hard and Duncan swatted the ball out of bounds - was a miscalled blocking foul). SA won't make those mistakes, so you can't play them like they will. OKC should learn that very fast.

[T Dot O Dot]

Grizzlies are sold, here's an interesting blurb on the new owner :

Now what: Perhaps more interestingly, there are reports coming out of China that CEO Robert Pera has ties with the Chinese mafia and has sent goons to rivals' factories to intimidate and harass them in an attempt to get them to shut down. Local news outlets say Pera is now under investigation by local authorities. Pera is a former Apple hardware engineer turned entrepreneur, and Forbes recently profiled him as one of the world's youngest billionaires, thanks to his 64% stake in Ubiquiti. If the reports turn out true, Ubiquiti will have quite a problem on its hands.

[Bklyn]

If Stern can allow the Nets to be sold to a Russian oligarch (and they ALL got their money dirty after the break up of the Soviet Union), then he'll deal with whatever bad press comes from this new owner.

[tin mad dog]

Good article.

I don't want to denigrate Wilt either - if he played in this era he'd likely lead any well-assembled team to a few titles. But back then he was typically guarded by guys who were shorter and couldn't hold position all that well. He was ahead of his time. Even in the Seventies you sometimes saw 6'9" centers. Not now.

True, now they're 6'10".

[Bklyn]

Simmons goes GoT on the NBA...

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/818 ... nes-part-i

[Bklyn]

Simmons goes GoT on the NBA...

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/818 ... nes-part-i

[tin mad dog]

Pretty damn funny

[Bklyn]

LOL at the open windows along the top...

[Bklyn]

Often obscured in the haze of celebration of the Dream Team is this fact: The United States actually voted against allowing N.B.A. players to participate in the Olympics in 1992.

As it turned out, American self-interest was trumped by global embrace. The outcome was hugely beneficial. Basketball soared internationally and now can rightfully claim to be the world’s second-most-popular sport behind soccer.

Yet, as the United States opens play Sunday at the London Games, and corks pop on the 20th anniversary of the Dream Team, the N.B.A. is reassessing its involvement in the Olympics with an eye toward an even bigger and more popular international sporting event: soccer’s World Cup.

Several trial balloons are being floated. One would mirror soccer’s age restriction and make Olympic basketball an under-23 tournament. Another would place the age limit at, say, 26. A third might place a limit of two Olympic appearances regardless of age.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/sport ... wanted=all

[T Dot O Dot]

Woj : http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics-- ... hange.html

Teams Russia and Lithuania blast Stern's proposed Olympic rule change
26 minutes ago

LONDON --- Before the emperor of basketball makes an entrance with his security detail and wing-tipped yes men into the arena here, David Stern ought to make sure to get to the tournament quarterfinals on Wednesday and take a good long look at an old grudge game between Russia and Lithuania. As the NBA tries to play God on Olympic basketball, pushing FIBA to legislate change that’ll render this magnificent spectacle irrelevant, Stern should be forced to confront the collateral damage of his failing movement.

“I would hope that the countries would be in an uproar about this,” Russia coach David Blatt told Yahoo! Sports on Tuesday “Who is one country to determine for everyone how international basketball should be played, and particularly how the Olympic Games should be managed? It’s not supposed to be like that. If it’s a global game, it’s a global game.”

Stern has been met with an increasing level of resistance about his and the NBA owners’ desires to turn the Olympics into an Under-23 tournament and send the league’s superstars to an NBA-FIBA partnered World Cup of Basketball. So much resistance, it wouldn’t be surprising to see Stern use this trip to England to start back-peddling to spare himself one more indignity in these sad, dark final years on the job. Stern should tell the owners that he’s parking the issue and leaving it to his eventual successor, Adam Silver.

Stern will soon met with FIBA secretary Patrick Baumann, who told the Sports Business Journal that he needed to hear many more details from the NBA before bringing an Under-23 tournament idea to the 200-plus countries in membership. If the NBA doesn’t get what it wants out of a financial partnership with FIBA in a World Cup tournament, Baumann sounded dubious over the NBA’s chances of financing its own non-sanctioned global event.

“Everybody’s free to organize a tournament,” Baumann told SBJ. “Whether the rest of the world will participate is their choice. If (the NBA is) to distribute billions and billions, then maybe they might participate. If it’s to retain all the benefits for themselves, my guess is the rest of the world won’t participate.”

The rest of the world is dubious, and has low tolerance for Stern’s bully tactics. On the eve of the quarterfinal round where the United States and Australia play, the Russians and Lithuania and were indignant over the NBA’s desire to crush Olympic basketball. Blatt resurrected a program out of the rubble and transformed them into perhaps the second best in the world now. Lithuania is the Indiana of European basketball, and fought its way into the Olympics through a qualifying tournament.

Now, Russia is the No. 2 seed in the tournament, and Lithuania pushed the United States to the brink in a 99-94 loss in preliminary play. Lithuania’s coach Kestutis Kemzura loves a global basketball climate where he could lose to Nigeria in June, watch them lose to Team USA by 83 points and still somehow come so, so close to beating the Americans. The world keeps getting smaller,

Kemzura says, the gap keeps closing and he wants Lithuania to keep taking its best shot at the United States’ superstars. He wants to beat the best, wants to beat the USA and wants it on the biggest stage in the world: The Olympics.

"We went to the qualification in Venezuela on the first of June, and some of our players came straight after they finished (professional) seasons,” Kemzura said. “ Of course (the Olympics) matters. We were fighting for this place. I don’t understand this idea of sending younger players, not sending our best to the Olympics. I do not understand it.

“If we leave everything on money, and money runs the show, where’s the sport? Where’s national team idea?”

Lithuania’s Martynas Pocius wanted to represent his country in London so badly, he rushed out of Spain the moment the ACB league playoffs ended, landed home, drove to national team practice and soon departed for an Olympic qualifying tournament in Venezuela. He hasn’t had an off-season. When the Olympics ends, he figures he’ll have two weeks until he’ll have to report back to his professional team. It breaks his heart that the Olympics would go to Under-23, and the motivations to play for national teams would be lost around the world.

“It gets to your body, and gets to you mentally,” Pocius said. “But it is the Olympics, and this is important. If they go to a tournament with just the young playing, it would lose all the beauty of basketball – just another youth kind of tournament. The USA would just dominate it, because there’s just so much more talent Under-23 level.”

The NBA doesn’t get direct revenue on its players in the Olympics, and hates bankrolling a lucrative basketball tournament for the International Olympic Committee. On this, the NBA’s right: The IOC’s a greedy, contemptible crew, and it’s understandable that they want to benefit on the risk of injury, and the inevitable wear-and-tear on their players for national teams.

Yet, the NBA can find a solution without tearing apart the tradition of Olympic basketball and telling the Russia’s and Lithuania’s and Spain’s greatest players that they can no longer compete. Nevertheless, the NBA doesn’t want two major tournaments every four years for its players --- just one, just a rebranded World Cup of Basketball.

“I find it a little bit contradictory that the NBA had made such a push to involve their greatest players in the Olympic movement -- and the world basketball movement -- and now when it no longer serves the interest of the teams suddenly it’s not a good idea,” Blatt said. “So what does that mean? That the last 20 years were wrong?

“Twenty years ago, the NBA was in the same situation with its players playing in the Olympics --- all the big contracts, the risk of injuries. It’s all the same now. But that wasn’t an issue then? Why, because it was fabulously popular and amazingly well-serving of the economics of the game. And now it’s a bad idea? I don’t get it.”

The bus was waiting for Russia’s coach outside a training center on Tuesday, his coaches and players waiting for him to climb aboard. Seven years ago, Russia had a shambles of a program and now they’re trying to win a medal for the first time in history. The Soviet Union has two golds, but never Russia. David Stern comes to London now, and he would be wise to understand the climate, and start back-peddling out of this issue, out of a lose cause. Too much collateral damage here, too much to history to tear apart.

On his way to the bus, on his way to perhaps a gold medal meeting with the United States, David Blatt had one final message for the Commissioner of the NBA: “You just don’t mess with the Olympic Games.”

[tin mad dog]

Excuse me, while I puke....

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/ ... could.html

[Bklyn]

Some teams would be seriously diminished with this. The Celtics, Bulls and Lakers are strong brands by themselves. You can't slap "SAMSUNG" across the front of their unis and expect the masses to embrace that bullshit. This is a real sport, not kickball or circle driving.

[Johnette's Daddy]

Some teams would be seriously diminished with this. The Celtics, Bulls and Lakers are strong brands by themselves. You can't slap "SAMSUNG" across the front of their unis and expect the masses to embrace that bullshit. This is a real sport, not kickball or circle driving.

Amen.